10:18 jlkinsel : #startmeeting
10:19 widodh : jlkinsel: I'd like to do it now, but we are with 4 guys in here
10:19 widodh : It is indeed Friday evening, cold beer is waiting for me :)
10:19 ewanmellor : #startmeeting
10:19 jlkinsel : I know, last thing I want to do is stop beer drinking. ;)
10:19 ewanmellor : Looks like neither of us have meetbot at our beck and call ;-)
10:20 --> ke4qqq (~ke4qqq@fedora/ke4qqq) has joined #cloudstack-meeting
10:20 widodh : jlkinsel: What time is it at your place right now?
10:20 widodh : ke4qqq: Should have meetbot access
10:20 ! ke4qqq apologizes for being late - traveling screws me up
10:20 ke4qqq : #startmeeting
10:20 ke4qqq : hmmm no, apparently not
10:20 jlkinsel : am friday
10:21 ke4qqq : I don't see meetbot anyway
10:21 ewanmellor : Oh, cloudbot != meetbot?
10:21 jlkinsel : i thought cloudbot was meetbot *shrug*
10:21 ! ke4qqq also has a multiple meetings beginning in 10 minutes :(
10:22 widodh : Ok, we can do without meetbot and send a summary on dev?
10:22 jlkinsel : OK - real standup style. :) go in alpha order, anything blocking or that needs to be discussed.
10:22 jlkinsel : yes
10:23 jlkinsel : edison_ - any updates if you're here? (30 secs to reply)
10:23 ke4qqq : widodh: yep
10:23 ewanmellor : edison_ has been silent.
10:23 jlkinsel : ok. ewan, anything from you?
10:23 ewanmellor : Release candidate 1 scheduled for a week today.
10:23 ewanmellor : Citrix has got some QA people lined up to work on that one.
10:23 jlkinsel : do you see anything that's going to threaten the RC?
10:24 ewanmellor : So it's important that it is good, and on time.
10:24 ewanmellor : I see lots of things threatening the RC!
10:24 ! ke4qqq is glad I am not the only one :)
10:25 jlkinsel : anything in particular we need to discuss here?
10:25 ewanmellor : It looks like we'll get all the licensing refactoring done, unless someone tells me that there's something they are alarmed about in that regard.
10:25 ewanmellor : Upgrade is still an issue.
10:25 ewanmellor : Automated tests should be ready in time -- I have machines here ready to go -- should have those stood up today or early next week.
10:25 widodh : regarding licensing: Just want to repeat again, libvirt-java is switching license at 0.4.9 which will come out shortly
10:26 ke4qqq : widodh: that is awesome! - links to discussion on that? please define: shortly
10:26 ewanmellor : LEGAL-144 got approved, so we have permission to ship libvirt-java as an LGPL optional dependency.
10:27 ewanmellor : We can cite LEGAL-144 as precedence if we want to handle other LGPL libraries the same way.
10:27 widodh : ke4qqq: No public discussion, got it in my mailbox from Daniel Veillard. On my "request" they are switching license to MIT. Will be released in September
10:27 ke4qqq : widodh: awesome.
10:27 jlkinsel : very cool
10:27 ewanmellor : So we can go with it as optional for 4.0, and put it back into core as soon as 0.4.9 is out.
10:27 ke4qqq : ewanmellor: sounds like a plan
10:27 --> kdamage (~quassel@fibre.backbonetechnology.com) has joined #cloudstack-meeting
10:28 jlkinsel : ok. ewanmellor: anything else?
10:28 ewanmellor : Nope.
10:28 jlkinsel : thanks sir.
10:28 ewanmellor : Oh, and Darren isn't here.
10:28 jlkinsel : nothing from me related to the release.
10:28 ewanmellor : But he's been in the Citrix office recently, working on Maven.
10:28 jlkinsel : kdamage: any issues/blockers your working on for the cs 4.0 release?
10:29 jlkinsel : oh - darren's a citrix employee? From the email I was guessing godaddy
10:29 kdamage : well the apache email system is stripping attachments, so I have nowhere to post the updates infographics...etc I'm working on
10:29 ewanmellor : Darren is at GoDaddy, yes.  He was in town, that's all.
10:29 jlkinsel : ah gotchya
10:29 jlkinsel : kdamage: is that for 4.0 release?
10:29 kdamage : yes, for the Docs
10:30 jlkinsel : ah ok
10:30 ewanmellor : The plan for Maven is to make it work in parallel for a week or two, make sure everyone is comfortable, and then hopefully flip the switch.
10:30 kdamage : I'm redoing all the diagrams
10:30 jlkinsel : ok. can you put them on a website or in the wiki for review?
10:31 kdamage : I have log in for the old wiki, has thta moved or changed?
10:32 jlkinsel : both
10:32 jlkinsel : new wiki is http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Index
10:32 kdamage : ahh
10:32 jlkinsel : you can register for a new acct
10:32 kdamage : thank, that solution works for me
10:32 jlkinsel : kdamage: presuming you can get that workin, anything else?
10:32 kdamage : Gluster support
10:33 jlkinsel : ...
10:33 kdamage : but that might not make it
10:33 cloudbot : jlkinsel: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
10:33 ! jlkinsel looks at cloudbot, continues
10:33 jlkinsel : kdamage: ok so you're working on that, I don't think i've seen patches/discussion on the list recently?
10:33 kdamage : exactly, been waylayed
10:33 jlkinsel : i hear ya.
10:34 jlkinsel : ok let us know on that one, if you need help post to the list, maybe somebody can lend a hand/brain.
10:34 ewanmellor : kdamage: Gluster for 4.1, please!
10:34 ewanmellor : It's too late for 4.0.
10:34 jlkinsel : ok. sit that one out. :)
10:34 widodh : agree, 4.1 please :)
10:34 kdamage : np, I have next week to work on it, If I get any positive results I'll email the dev list
10:35 jlkinsel : so we have consensus on that? I'll put into email nonetheless.
10:36 jlkinsel : ke4qqq: I know you have a meeting, but I'll ask anyways if you have anything to discuss
10:37 jlkinsel : I'll consider he's away.
10:37 jlkinsel : widodh: your turn
10:38 widodh : Working on documentation. Main problem is very old docs relying on old scripts. Lot of Citrix references I'm taking out as well
10:38 widodh : Trying to get the Hypervisor (KVM) and Management server install and configure process for both RHEL and Ubuntu in there
10:39 widodh : Want to improve cloud-setup-agent since it breaks more then we want. Want to get rid of "./install.sh" since it does all kinds of magic
10:39 widodh : Thinking about a RPM and DEB repository for easier installation, but this has to be outside ASF since it's
10:40 kdamage : widodh let me know if I can help test any scripts or such for you
10:40 widodh : I see the not updated docs as a problem for 4.0
10:40 jlkinsel : yeah
10:40 jlkinsel : don't know if we need them for RC1, though?
10:40 ewanmellor : widodh: I think we can host binaries, as long as it'spure ASF licensed software.
10:40 widodh : ewanmellor: I'll bring that up on the ml
10:41 widodh : kdamage: Actually trying to get rid of the magic scripts
10:41 kdamage : good :)
10:41 widodh : and documenting all the steps a admin has to take
10:42 widodh : Still testing the KVM agent though
10:42 widodh : that's it
10:42 jlkinsel : cool. I'm hoping to have some time to QA that stuff soon if you need an extra pair of eyes
10:42 jlkinsel : ok - last call from anybody to discuss anything formally regarding the 4.0 release?
10:43 jlkinsel : *crickets* ;)
10:43 widodh : jlkinsel: would be great if the docs could be QA'd
10:43 jlkinsel : will do what I can. I couldn't build them on my mac before, but I saw a patch for that
10:45 jlkinsel : ok guys - with that I'll close this meeting. Thanks for showing up, despite my not sending out an announcement. We'll be doing this again at the same scheduled time next Friday unless otherwise noted on the mailing list

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